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A few Strongbows in and mid-movie later...
I wish I understood why starving actors/singers/musicians who are forced by circumstance to cross-dress is such a bullet proof kink of mine. I mean, someone was either very smart, or very cruel when they didn't introduce me to Some Like It Hot in the formative days of my youth. They probably looked at my cross-dressing tendencies and thought it would be for the best, damn them. But God Damn. Much like when I first watched Some Like It Hot, as soon as I've finished watching Victor Victoria, I may have to go out and get my hands on it.
Damnit. I don't have the money to feed this goddamn kink.
In other news: GODDAMN, Victoria's love interest in this movie is FUGLY. GO WITH HIS BLONDE, VICTORIA. JUST GO WITH THE BLONDE!
Damnit. I don't have the money to feed this goddamn kink.
In other news: GODDAMN, Victoria's love interest in this movie is FUGLY. GO WITH HIS BLONDE, VICTORIA. JUST GO WITH THE BLONDE!
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And yes please! I'd love a copy of Victor/Victoria. I'm not as in love with it as Some Like it Hot, but it DOES tickle me pink all the same.
Hrum, there's got to be something I can send you in thanks...are you in all interested in the BBC show Merlin? I could burn you that.
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And YES to Victor/Victoria. James Gardner never did it for me either. (Though OMG did you just ship Victoria/Norma?? ILU!!)
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And yes. Yes I DID just ship Victoria/Norma. I think Norma is just freaky enough that, once she got over the whole queer thing, it would totally work. AND be so much hotter than the alternative. ;)
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.......Good Lord, I think I might.
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2. One of the most interesting things about that movie, for me, though, is that the real emotional core of it is the relationship between Victoria and Toddy. Which is so loving and affectionate and buddyish that I always watch it thinking "OTP!" about them, especially in comparison with Victoria's relationship with the gangster dude who is, as you say, fugly, and has to be constantly worked upon just to be remotely tolerant. Their bond seems to be based wholly on sex, while Victoria and Toddy understand each other. And yet you can't just say, oh, well, Victoria/Toddy then, because sexual orientation doesn't work that way, not in this story. So Victoria gets a shallow, heteronormative relationship in the end, which I could never really see lasting, and Toddy gets to save the day but end up alone. It's sort of tragic. Though I like to think that it didn't stay that way.
3. Some Like It Hot is my favorite movie EVER, OMG.
4. I might, possibly, have a half-finished fic manuscript somewhere around entitled "Five Joints Where Sugar Kane Never Sang (Or Maybe She Did)," crossing SLIH over with V/V, along with J&W, Chicago, Casablanca, and The Great Gasby.
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2) AND I KNOW! I want Victoria and Toddy to go off and have FABULOUS adventures together in all the major cities around the world! In the very least, in my head canon, he eventually follows her out to Chicago, or maybe they meet up in New York and have fabulous BFF adventures there as they work a new act together! Which ok, King can fund. From Chicago. Though, I DO ADMIT, I did enjoy King's TRYING to be supportive/ok with being in a sexual relationship with "Victor" and tripping all over his hang ups. IT WAS ADORABLE TO ME.
3) WELL OF COURSE IT IS, YOU HAVE EXCELLENT TASTES MY FRIEND.
Last night I showed SLIH to my roomie, who'd never seen it. Her girlish glee (and she's not a fannish person at all, she doesn't get excited about stuff like someone like me or you might) was AMAZING. The entire time she was bemoaning 'why can't we make movies like THIS anymore!?". I was VERY amused, and vindicated in my SLIH love.
4)...I know it's only half finished, but what are the chances I could tempt you for a peek of such a tale? BECAUSE NOW I WANT SUGAR GETTING ALL ENTANGLED WITH BERTIE INNOCENTLY ENOUGH AS BERTIE TENDS TO GET ENTANGLED AND THE IMAGE OF JEEVES BEING NICE TO HER WIDE EYED-NESS IN ORDER TO RESOLVE THE SITUATION IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT (...because Jeeves HAS been know to be nice to females he doesn't see as a total matrimonial threat)
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2. I support the continuing adventures of Victoria and Toddy, and wish to subscribe to that newsletter! And I do agree about King trying to get over stuff; it's just...I don't know, maybe it's partly just my lack of attraction to him, and I'm not giving a fair look at how much progress he makes, especially considering time period and his macho background.
3. Well, there was only ever one Curtis and one Lemmon and one Monroe. And one Billy Wilder, for that matter. And they were all doing possibly their best work ever. If you ask me it's one of the perfect movies ever made, so of course compared to a lot of dreck today...but they made a lot of dreck back then, too.
Nevertheless, yes, it is spectacularly awesome and very much its own thing: a farce and a parody and a period movie and an action movie and a romance and a buddy movie. It is ♥, pure and simple.
4. XD I will try and see if I can dig it out? Actually, not to be too spoilery, but my idea was that Sugar would manage to get Bertie OUT of an engagement, having had it explained to her that he doesn't want to be in it, basically by smooching him suddenly and without warning in front of his fiancee. Ta-da, he's dumped.
But now I want to read/write your idea too. Because the thing is, I could aaaaaaallllmost ship Sugar/Bertie/Jeeves: both Sugar and Bertie are such utter sweethearts, and have been so kicked around by the people they care about; I think Sugar would uncritically adore Bertie and Jeeves, and take anything Jeeves said as gospel. And very possibly not have any objection to Bertie/Jeeves, especially if we're post-movie, here. Also it would give Aunt Agatha an aneurysm, while meeting with the hearty approval of the Drones, so those are plusses. But Sugar and Bertie seem to be each other's type for friendship, maybe, but very much not each other's type for love, so ... I don't know. And Sugar's a rather more tragic character than you usually see in Wodehouse, and that's a big part of what makes her interesting to me, so... hmm. *ponders*
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SO YEA, IT'S PROBABLY COOL.