BIOETHICS, MOTHERFUCKERS!
Jun. 17th, 2010 10:47 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
So, there I was--freshly exercised, fed, and showered--catching up on internet things before I fell into the sweet arms of Morpheus, when this caught my eye on my twitter feed:
"DodgerofZion: @thelindsayellis Happening pretty close to your backyard: http://bit.ly/bz2nV8"
TRIGGER WARNING (because I didn't think to warn on my twitter, and my sincere apologies to one friend. RECAP: the links regard female genital surgery on very young children conducted AT CORNELL UNIVERSITY. And all because their clits were deemed by the doctors as too big. Oh, and without the consent of the ethics board (though, WTF what the FUCK sort of ethics board ok-ed the first part?!!?) the doctor wants to perform yearly examinations involving stimulation with a vibrating device and a Q-tip. And this research, though the head doctor is a man, the other two doctors whose names are attached to the report are women.)
I clicked the link. And then clicked on this article as well (Bad Vibrations).
I'm just going to let that sink in for a moment.
Ok.
Got it?
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
NO. REALLY.
The only thing these University of Mengele PhD holders deserve is to QUALIFY FOR A DARWIN AWARD. The basis and justification for this procedure and study is horrifying. I DON'T CARE IF YOU CLAIM BIG CLITS MAKE GIRLS AGGRESSIVE, TOMBOYISH, AND *GASP* LESBIANS! The psychological harm of just the physical examination of being sexually stimulated by your "Doctor" as your PARENTS watch has GOT to outweigh the harm of growing up with a clit that doesn't "Look Right".
HAVING GENITAL THAT DOESN'T LOOK "NORMAL" ISN'T AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED SURGICALLY AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. AND UNLESS IT SOMEHOW SEVERELY DIMINISHES A PERSON'S QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EITHER HEALTH OR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASON, IT SHOULD NEVER BE AN ISSUE.
This study is bullshit, these doctors' are out of their fucking minds, and I'm mad as hell. Tell me I'm not crazy for thinking this. Please, tell me my outrage isn't misplaced this time.
"DodgerofZion: @thelindsayellis Happening pretty close to your backyard: http://bit.ly/bz2nV8"
TRIGGER WARNING (because I didn't think to warn on my twitter, and my sincere apologies to one friend. RECAP: the links regard female genital surgery on very young children conducted AT CORNELL UNIVERSITY. And all because their clits were deemed by the doctors as too big. Oh, and without the consent of the ethics board (though, WTF what the FUCK sort of ethics board ok-ed the first part?!!?) the doctor wants to perform yearly examinations involving stimulation with a vibrating device and a Q-tip. And this research, though the head doctor is a man, the other two doctors whose names are attached to the report are women.)
I clicked the link. And then clicked on this article as well (Bad Vibrations).
I'm just going to let that sink in for a moment.
Ok.
Got it?
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
NO. REALLY.
The only thing these University of Mengele PhD holders deserve is to QUALIFY FOR A DARWIN AWARD. The basis and justification for this procedure and study is horrifying. I DON'T CARE IF YOU CLAIM BIG CLITS MAKE GIRLS AGGRESSIVE, TOMBOYISH, AND *GASP* LESBIANS! The psychological harm of just the physical examination of being sexually stimulated by your "Doctor" as your PARENTS watch has GOT to outweigh the harm of growing up with a clit that doesn't "Look Right".
HAVING GENITAL THAT DOESN'T LOOK "NORMAL" ISN'T AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED SURGICALLY AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. AND UNLESS IT SOMEHOW SEVERELY DIMINISHES A PERSON'S QUALITY OF LIFE FOR EITHER HEALTH OR PSYCHOLOGICAL REASON, IT SHOULD NEVER BE AN ISSUE.
This study is bullshit, these doctors' are out of their fucking minds, and I'm mad as hell. Tell me I'm not crazy for thinking this. Please, tell me my outrage isn't misplaced this time.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:07 am (UTC)what a great way to fuck those kids up forever.
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Date: 2010-06-18 03:26 am (UTC)...I'm not going to click the link. This is mostly because I really don't want to. But if it's anything like what you're describing then no, no you are not full of misplaced rage.
What the fucking fuck people, it's the 21st century, not the 19th. We don't go around genitally mutilating children "for their own good". Jesus fucking christ.
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Date: 2010-06-18 04:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 04:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 04:54 am (UTC)This pisses me off so damn much. No. Just. NO. There is absolutely no justification for it. "Normal" is just a term that gets slapped onto overall patterns. It serves as a guideline as to what to expect, not a fucking blueprint to die by.
Also, it's one thing to improve the quality of life, (i.e. circumcision, although controversial, at the very least it has the benefit of decreasing the rate of infection) but this atrocity has no medicinal purpose at all. None. It does NOTHING except cater to the chauvinism and homophobia of fuckwads who need to get a serious lesson on paternalism and butt out of things they have no business sticking their noses in.
Seriously, I hope the ethics committee will rip them to shreds over this. It's the least they deserve.
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Date: 2010-06-18 12:15 pm (UTC)Clit... too big? What?! Excuse me, barfing forever now.
Since I refuse to click the link--are these parents from a culture where female circumcision is considered 'normal'? Or was this totally a decision of the doctor?
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Date: 2010-06-18 01:00 pm (UTC)....You know, this entire debacle is full of such shit there aren't enough quotations in the world to express my sarcastic disgust.
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Date: 2010-06-18 12:58 pm (UTC)... my secondary reaction is a violent urge to vomit.
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Date: 2010-06-18 01:05 pm (UTC)I'm going to keep hoping it's totally not legit. Because cultural female genital mutilation is horrendous, but this would just be--
No. Can't even.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:45 pm (UTC)BUT none of that justifies the actual procedure being carried out on ANY non-consenting child, OR on children/women who did not actually have the condition that the surgery is designed to alleviate.
Ethics boards should be a bit more careful about what they sanction. Heads are going to have to roll over this.
And, having now read the original research paper, I join you in the vomitorium.
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Date: 2010-06-19 01:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-19 08:33 am (UTC)butchersurgeon.no subject
Date: 2010-06-21 04:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-18 01:38 pm (UTC)Also I am quite glad I've got a big clitoris, thank you very much.
Also, I believe there is a commandment being broken. DO NOT SLASH UP OTHER PEOPLES GENITALIA. ESPECIALLY BABIES. DEAR GODS.
I have no words. I have frothing rage but no words.
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Date: 2010-06-18 02:41 pm (UTC)I'll be over here, horrified.
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Date: 2010-06-18 05:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-19 04:51 am (UTC)I am going to click on the article, but the Q-tip vibrator aspect really is sending me right over the proverbial edge, as if it is possible to be sent further over the edge with a topic like female genital mutilation. Please tell me that this isn't still going on?!
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Date: 2010-06-20 02:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-06-21 04:52 am (UTC)Here's a response from a almost doctor on livejournal.
Follow the Bad Vibration's link above, that's a rebuttal from some of the doctors who did the study.
Anything else? I can find anything